UC Berkeley Student comment on Sep 24th faculty walkout, reply please
[size=12pt][img]http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_KtOEDjqBEnk/StQ8CvFUMII/AAAAAAAACqw/3OYDOjYUf9w/s400/ucberkeley_walkout.jpg[/img] [/size][color=navy][b][size=12pt]Hey eveyone, this is my first post in Taish[/size][size=12pt]a. I'm currently a sophomore at UC Berkeley, and I really want to report on the Faculty Walkout on Sep 24th 09 since it is such a crucial event not only for Berkeley students and faculty but also for UC-bound campuses overall. [color=red]I would really appreciate to hear any comments regarding to this post. Thank you all[/color].[/size] X(VU#R B0L*v,X/a
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[/b][/color][color=navy][b][size=12pt]Who will accept the fact that attending one of the University of California schools could cost more than $10,000 next year just for tuition? The U.C. Regents will sit down calmly to talk about a possible increase for the upcoming spring term and next fall ignoring the fact that some students and their parents say they can't afford to pay an extra $2,000 to $3,000. Then what about the tuition to international students?[/size][/b][/color]
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The tuition is already as high as 28000 dollars per year, so what’s the difference between UC system and other prestigious Ivy League schools in terms of tuition? Does this money hike really substantiate “expedient” learning and researching environment for students?[/size]
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[size=12pt]President Yudof’s speech about potential [color=red]32% increase in tuition [/color]certainly irritated a large number of students and parents. In consequence, on Sep 24th, 09, cameras, UCPD officers and thousands of red armbands, an estimated 5,000 members of UC Berkeley and neighboring communities demonstrated on campus in a strong showing of opposition to the state's disinvestment in the University of California. Some of the former faculty members gave speech on Lower Sproul about their disappointment about the Administrative Office of UC system. Most of them won compassion and understanding from students who were listening to their speeches by receiving continuous loud exclamations and applause from them. Since I was sitting among them, I can feel truly experience the enthusiasm and anger those people have who I can see daily in my life.[/size]4i)D:^ {/p%F'\_l
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[size=12pt]The reckless fee increase, along with the destructive cuts already being felt on campuses across the state, undermines the benefits from both students and faculty. In reality in a recession higher education should be expanding its offerings, hiring more professors and letting in more students in, instead of moving away incentives for students to continue stay on the campus. I heard another international student at Lower Sproul “If UC increases the tuition, there’s no point for me to stay at Berkeley. Why not going to Harvard? “The term in Economics “[color=red]Substitution effect[/color]” is showing more clearly than ever before. If the education offered cannot match the tuition paid, why not choose a perfect substitute, which is “private schools” in this case. Same for faculty, if UC System cannot keep those elite in their field, how long would reputation for strong in research keep? This protest is just the opening shot in a long battle to save not only higher education in California, but the state's future.[/size] mXg @-Q!_ h2o
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[size=12pt]Without question, witnesses and walkout participants could sense enthusiasm and excitement among rally-goers, made up of students, faculty and workers. UC Berkeley had the highest number of protesters system wide. And in these regards, it was undoubtedly a success.[/size]+|(Cb_ K+e Vk+T/i `
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[size=12pt]What else can we do as students? We could ONLY protest, and aggregate our strength to fight against harm of our own interest. Luckily, much of our interest is bond with faculties’, and therefore, we are able to be [color=red]powerful[/color] to stand on the opposite side to the Regents. Since education is so essential, why do we doubt that “if once California put more money on prison than on education,[/size][size=12pt] we can clearly say that[/size][size=12pt] this state has no future[/size][size=12pt].[/size][size=12pt]” [/size]
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[/b][/color][color=red][size=12pt][b][color=navy][color=red]It is people’s university; knowledge is property, it's right![/color] I look forward to arising awareness of the current situation of UC and hoping UC Berkeley would maintain its reputation as impartial and beneficial for her own students and faculty members and thus attract more outstanding international students like you all to apply to Berkeley. [/color][color=red]Feel free to tell me your opinions. Thanks.[/color][/b][/size][/color]w |sF6e
[[i] 本帖最后由 helenjihang2003 于 2009-12-11 16:02 编辑 [/i]]
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We have to be aware of the financial aspects of those campuses Yea We have to be aware of the financial aspects of those campuses i'm here to give support to all the students there ,hope the Regents can make a sensible solution .best wishes.::31 stupid tution rise, when education becomes a profitable industry, who is paying the costs?? not only the students, but those who have been deprived the rights due to the increase, a long term damage to the generation. ::81 UCB is my dream school and I hope I can get the admission or offer from it next year.WC3p"p5l5@
I definitely support all the students there as the reasons stated bove and there is no escaping the fact that the higher the tuition is, the less outstanding students perfer UCB. My question is how the money will be spended? If it will be spended on students and facilities, I think it is understandable. )O"{"x#n ]H
But if the money is for bureaucratics, unneccessay international travellings, then there is no reason for the tuition rise. The substitution effect is really interesting. If the tuition is rised, pple who can pay for it would probably want to go to Harvard, MIT etc. And those who can't afford would probably go to some universities that are less expansive even if they are not as prestigious as UCB. lack of funding.......)z m3Z(G6Vq)y7y
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i love caltech&ucb in ca
回复 3# gyceedoo 的帖子
I think not only us as students should consider but also for faculty members, if their coworkers have to leave because of so called "financial crisis", who would support them to win more Nobel Prizes?keep the original idea of education
they should keep the original idea of education keep the tuition fee don't make money on pushing international students I understand that the school administrative department(or whatever) raises tuition with the excuse of "financial crisis", because this does not happen only in UCB. My school did this at the beginning of this year, with a raise about $800 per quarter (or $2,400 per year) for international students, and an average increase of $1,200 per year for local students.From the perspective of economics, school should adjust their tuition rate in order to catch up with continuous inflation. But to what extent? At what time? Adding an extra $2,000 per student per year can be a great amount of additional expense for middle-class families during such a a time. Tuitions expenses could become an onerous duty that is draining out their savings to alleviate school crisis. But who is going to relieve the families' financial constraint? As a result, those who have already had a bad credit history would continue to delay their payment for debts; those who lent out their money waiting for receivables claims bankruptcy; government cuts education premium in order to save financial institutions; and schools want more tuition to cover this expense... X f)m[;E m0t ^t
So when will this chain reaction come to an end?
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[[i] 本帖最后由 fullmoonqq 于 2009-11-4 10:27 编辑 [/i]] A plan incongruous with reason. From the perspective of economics, the opportunity cost is too much to achieve the profit it should be. In fact, for the purpose of obtaining more money, I choose to study in the University. So the tuition is regarded as an investment for the future. But I’m not sure if I can receive the interest from such a huge investment.
回复 5# corn827 的帖子
I agree, increasing the tuition only drives away future social benefit and enlarges deadweight loss. As much as UC system is still the best and strongest public university system in North America, the advantage it has today is diminishing since the tuition is keeping increasing.For most of the middle class families who have several children qualified to go to college now, the recession today has already shrunk the family budget for the college tuition a lot. Meanwhile, the sharp rise of the tuition definitely makes the situation even worse, especially for the decades are supposed to be sitting in the UC classrooms during the recession. This large scale of increase might directly change the paths of a lot of promising young peoples' lives.
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A critical factor for an outstanding public university is whether it has the ability to attract the best students from all over the country even the world, not only just the in-state residents. However,after this dramatic increase on tuition. A large portion of brilliant students would change their minds. Instead of going to UCs, they might apply for the private colleges or just the in-state public schools. As another matter of fact, California already has one of the highest level of living expenses in America, so along with the tuition rise, this would drive more out-of-state families away.
College education is the key to a better future for the state and the whole country. As the leader of the best public education for California and America, UC needs to think twice to make every single piece of the change about raising the tuition.
support for Helen
Berkeley up against tuition fees, support for Helen Hanghang, i support u absolutely, the higher education institution should be financially-friendly~,Lj$Q7E,|p j-\4zYrt1n t Yc3_
however, i wonder whether u want to do sth in practice, or u just to claim any rights? Support you Helen! `:{ qqV$b
I just wonder the function of the money to be increased. As we all acknowledge that education itself is a kind of investiment, and if the money we put in is so high, the profit out of it would be hardly to estimate, weighing the current situation...
回复 18# rpb 的帖子
U r absolutely right bro, the case is we students as well as faculty members are not powered to do anything except for to protest. Hopefully this emotional demonstration will lead to "ponderous thinking process" from Board of Regents before they make sloppy decisions. Dearest baby, Finally,I could have the honor to support you by this way. I want you to know that I miss you so much!::z3o M:M!`4x,riT/oBest wishes for you! can't afford to pay an extra $2,000 to $3,000. Then what about the tuition to international students?' v2 A7 R7 J! U. q2 ^8 r
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